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I was sent this interesting quote today.
“Any possibility that intelligent life on earth or elsewhere evolved by chance can be quickly dismissed. Eminent British astronomer Sir Fred Hoyle points out that “even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup” from which life is made, the chance of producing the basic enzymes of life by random processes without intelligent direction would be approximately one in 10 with 40,000 zeros after it. The impossibility of that number can be seen in the following illustration. The likelihood of reaching out and by chance plucking a particular atom out of the universe would be about 1 in 10 with 80 zeros after it. If every atom in this universe became another universe, the chance of reaching out at random and plucking a particular atom out of all of those universes would be 1 in 10 with 160 zeros after it…. Couldn’t God have created intelligent life on other planets? Yes, but the Bible declares that this earth alone has intelligent physical life. It is to this earth that Satan came to spread his rebellion; and to this earth Christ came to die for man’s sin. The battle between God and Satan for the universe is centered here. Christ’s sacrifice on the cross purified the entire universe and heaven itself of sin” (Heb 9:23).
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‘Life’ from ‘non-life’, just is not mathematically possible! That of course will not stop people believing it. People do not believe in evolution from their minds, but there hearts see Psalm 14:1
“The fool hath said in his heart…” Psalm 14:1
“The fool hath said in his heart…”
Psalm 14:1
Hers’s an explanation of Abiogenesis so you can see how the odds you quoted are so very, very wrong, and it seems it’s adressing the wrong calculation anyhow.. Note the “No Life”—>”Life” is not one step. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html
Hi,
Interesting though I have not read all of it. Phrases like “These simple molecules then slowly evolved into more cooperative self-replicating systems” are a little over simplifying. It is a big claim in a short statement.
I am no mathematician, not a molecular-biologist, but the argument for life form non-life seams to rely on a lot of wishful thinking, i.e. if there where just the right chemical soup and the right atmosphere and the right temperature, and the right…. and with a bit of luck and a following wind life should happen. But it only takes one thing to go wrong and you have to start off all over again.
It look very unlikely to me.
“the chance of producing the basic enzymes of life by random processes without intelligent direction would be approximately one in 10 with 40,000 zeros after it.”
…and yet, here we are on the earth with all this life, so the calculated odds seem a bit wrong, as it’s more like 1 in 1, given the right conditions. The thing is producing basic enzymes etc is obviously not ramdom, as anyone with a GCSE in chemistry and no religious indoctrination will realise.
It’s just such a wierd thing that your god managed to place his ultimate creation on the lonely outer edge of some bog standard galaxy (one of billions of the things) and not, as you may have thought, in the middle of well, anything. We are not even in the middle of our own solar system – just the third planet, ambling round our star. And it seems there’s probably billions of other planets out there too, so it’s only a matter of better telescopes before we do find life on another one of them.
(Brief aside: How come if this planet was designed for us to have domain over it we cannot survive on over 95% of it’s surface?)
“the calculated odds seem a bit wrong, as it’s more like 1 in 1, given the right conditions.” Humm, what are the chances of that then? But no it is not 1 in 1 even with creating the condition in a lab, you can not make ‘life’ from ‘non-life.’ Not even with the application of intelligence and technology. And applying intelligence and technology is a bit of a cheat in a life comes without intelligence proof.
“The thing is producing basic enzymes etc is obviously not ramdom, as anyone with a GCSE in chemistry and no religious indoctrination will realise.” Ex-director of the Institute of Astronomy at Cambridge, Sir Fred Hoyle, who read mathematics at Emmanuel College, Cambridge probably did not have a GCSE.
God placed us on a planet that at one time was just perfect for life to survive on. one planet, around one star of 70, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars that most atheists appear to think popped out of nothing? Which in the more unlikely, God made it all for a purpose, or nothing made it by chance? Just one of those stars our Sun burns with the power of 100,000,000,000 tons of dynamite every second. Where did the energy come from? Who is paying the gas bill on that?
“There’s probably billions of other planets out there too, so it’s only a matter of better telescopes before we do find life on another one of them.” Humm, It is strange, SETI have been searching across the sky for a transmission that could be characterized as intelligent, say non-natural radio emissions from a location outside our solar system. These would easy to recognize as artificial due to their repetitive nature and narrow bandwidths. What we are talking about here is simple information in a radio wave. Yet we dismiss as natural the most complex code in DNA!!! If we applied the same criteria DNA would beyond any question prove intelligent design.
“How come if this planet was designed for us to have domain over it we cannot survive on over 95% of it’s surface?” See Genesis chapter 3 and 6-9.
Great talking.
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